Wednesday, March 25, 2009

The World of Information

I suppose the body to be nothing but a statue or machine made of earth, which God forms with the explicit intention of making it as much as possible like usDescartes' Views on the Pineal Gland

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Computationally, how is it that the world can see information in this way and not think the basis of the economy cannot be thought "subjective" from a developmental robotic point of view?(the design of this information transfer does not currently exist)

You see, how instantaneously a virus could over take all areas of research to have it do the bidding of those that know well the resource needed to manipulate, is the resource monetarily that is readily available to them. How appealing such imagery to have it planted in the mind and explode with all it's meaning?

I do not have to tell you what that is.

Figure 5. The Worm According to Mondino (view from above). In this view of the brain from above, the label “worm” (“vermis”) is applied to the choroid plexus in the lateral and third ventricles, just as in Mondino's Anothomia (Berengario da Carpi 1530, fol. O3r).

So this is more the idea that the energy of the sun can be transformed in that "energy of leaves" and how is it fluidity passed through out the whole system(the tree) if one did not understand the "cloud of thinking and body of thought" can enforce endocrinology to do the masters bidding?

Most certainly I do not want anyone to think this is a "Pseudo-Science" that one can apply to an Illuminate, and think this is what such a body of thought here is assigned to in that body of thought that a secret society works with below the radar.

It is a legitimate question about how wo/men think that the body is a machine, and how it's functions can exist as "apart from the the mind" as it breathes according to it's own plan? A robotic structure, that given the right programing and theory will apply the logic accordingly without the passions and emotions of human beings. A some how highly recognized version of the masses being worked b such simplistic switches which have been supplanted by the neuronal switch the robot had been designed with.


See:When It Comes to Photosynthesis, Plants Perform Quantum Computation
Plants soak up some of the 1017 joules of solar energy that bathe Earth each second, harvesting as much as 95 percent of it from the light they absorb. The transformation of sunlight into carbohydrates takes place in one million billionths of a second, preventing much of that energy from dissipating as heat. But exactly how plants manage this nearly instantaneous trick has remained elusive. Now biophysicists at the University of California, Berkeley, have shown that plants use the basic principle of quantum computing—the exploration of a multiplicity of different answers at the same time—to achieve near-perfect efficiency.

Biophysicist Gregory Engel and his colleagues cooled a green sulfur bacterium—Chlorobium tepidum, one of the oldest photosynthesizers on the planet—to 77 kelvins [–321 degrees Fahrenheit] and then pulsed it with extremely short bursts of laser light. By manipulating these pulses, the researchers could track the flow of energy through the bacterium's photosynthetic system. "We always thought of it as hopping through the system, the same way that you or I might run through a maze of bushes," Engel explains. "But, instead of coming to an intersection and going left or right, it can actually go in both directions at once and explore many different paths most efficiently."

In other words, plants are employing the basic principles of quantum mechanics to transfer energy from chromophore (photosynthetic molecule) to chromophore until it reaches the so-called reaction center where photosynthesis, as it is classically defined, takes place. The particles of energy are behaving like waves. "We see very strong evidence for a wavelike motion of energy through these photosynthetic complexes," Engel says. The results appear in the current issue of Nature.

QUANTUM CHLOROPHYLL: Sunlight triggers wave-like motion in green chlorophyll, embedded in a protein structure, depicted in gray here, that guides its function. GREGORY ENGEL

Employing this process allows the near-perfect efficiency of plants in harvesting energy from sunlight and is likely to be used by all of them, Engel says. It might also be copied usefully by researchers attempting to create artificial photosynthesis, such as that in photovoltaic cells for generating electricity. "This can be a much more efficient energy transfer than a classical hopping one," Engel says. "Exactly how to implement that is a very difficult question."

It also remains unclear exactly how a plant's structure permits this quantum effect to take place. "[The protein structure] of the plant has to be tuned to allow transfer among chromophores but not to allow transfers into [heat]," Engel says. "How that tuning works and how it is controlled, we don't know." Inside every spring leaf is a system capable of performing a speedy and efficient quantum computation, and therein lies the key to much of the energy on Earth.


So the question is then raised. Who is the Master that sends the messages to the body of thoughts which governs and disseminates information accordingly to a world view? Is it that "one foot soldier" who takes his order unquestionably and supplants his choice for a product in the future according to the description of the government which holds office, and seeks to implement there own plan to deal with the economy in a way that is most suitable to a "consumerism by their design" which shall over see any such plan to implement a corporate world view under a government agenda???

It is by such understanding that any existing culture orientated world view of world design is nothing more then an attempt to usurp the freedom of empowered thinkers to choose to buy "which product?" "My logic" saids, you will "not survive" if you think otherwise. That might help adjust one's thinking according to the some Darwinian theory of an economic application?:)


  1. Hi Plato,

    The question to ask is if our models are refined to the point where both growth and decline can be predicted, what then happens to the speculative aspect that provides motivation when there is no longer the element of risk or gamble that exists with uncertainty.

    I guess I’m asking what’s the difference between the world that existed just over a year ago and the one we have now? That’s further to ask what has been lost, is it the factories and other places of endeavor, or is it the workers that occupy them that are no longer there, or just they are no longer willing to continue? On the other hand those houses that were built for which the loans are not secure have they all dissolved?

    Also, what does it actually mean when someone like Warren Buffet's or Bill Gates’ net worth is half of what it was a year ago, for if you count how great is their share of the whole it may be even greater then it was before? So what does it mean that our economy is failing? Does it say that we have lost the material and means to provide or have we lost the confidence and certainty that as what we provide as has having value?

    So at best all any model can do is give one some weighting of progress, confidence and risk; yet can it give us reason to care about any of it as to want to go on or better reason to?



  2. Hi Phil,

    A whole bunch of info to follow. It is about creating Debt. Anonymous said something about Silver notes, and China has their own version that they might be pushing.

    My article on symmetry and money( an ideal sought)on systemic barter for consumerism was in relation to Lincoln's greenback and is related to the Silver notes. Two men who sought to go against the reserve and paid a price.


    "It's the wrong way to go if we think that encouraging people to borrow more and leverage up more and to spend more will get us out of this mess, because that's what got us into this mess in the first place," Ms. Tavakoli said.

    It's far from clear that people who are struggling with the recession are even willing to step up to buy new cars and consumer goods, no matter what the governments in Canada and the U.S. do to try to get people borrowing and spending again.

    I am short on time right now ,but promised to answer you in light of the info I will put here for you, in response to your points for consideration.


  3. Hi Phil,

    I am always thinking about your comment as I present these links for you to consider in context of your questions. If this is to vague, please say so, and I will try and answer more directly.

    Under Dominance and Monopoly take note of Microsoft explanation.

    There are quite a few links that will be given for you to take into your arsenal for contemplation.

    Your position about creating fear and uncertainty, by such an open examination of processes require that one acknowledges information and takes this in. If you didn't, how could you say are better informed now? You are more empowered to make your decisions?

    Competition law

    A group of economists and lawyers, who are largely associated with the University of Chicago, advocate an approach to competition law guided by the proposition that some actions that were originally considered to be anticompetitive could actually promote competition.[54] The U.S. Supreme Court has used the Chicago School approach in several recent cases.[55] One view of the Chicago School approach to antitrust is found in United States Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Richard Posner's books' Antitrust Law[56] and Economic Analysis of Law[57]

    Robert Bork was highly critical of court decisions on United States antitrust law in a series of law review articles and his book The Antitrust Paradox.[58] Bork argued that both the original intention of antitrust laws and economic efficiency was the pursuit only of consumer welfare, the protection of competition rather than competitors.[59] Furthermore, only a few acts should be prohibited, namely cartels that fix prices and divide markets, mergers that create monopolies, and dominant firms pricing predatorily, while allowing such practices as vertical agreements and price discrimination on the grounds that it did not harm consumers.[60] Running through the different critiques of US antitrust policy is the common theme that government interference in the operation of free markets does more harm than good.[61] "The only cure for bad theory", writes Bork, "is better theory".[59] The late Harvard Law School Professor Philip Areeda, who favours more aggressive antitrust policy, in at least one Supreme Court case challenged Robert Bork's preference for non-intervention

    Also for consideration,

    Price Fixing

    Price fixing is an agreement between business competitors to sell the same product or service at the same price. In general, it is an agreement intended to ultimately push the price of a product as high as possible, leading to profits for all the sellers. Price-fixing can also involve any agreement to fix, peg, discount or stabilize prices. The principal feature is any agreement on price, whether expressed or implied. For the buyer, meanwhile, the practice results in a phenomenon similar to price gouging.

    More to follow time permitting.


  4. Hi Phil,

    To give you an example.

    Airline Cargo Price Fixing: British Airways, Air France-KLM, Lufthansa, United Airlines and American Airlines

    15 class action lawsuits have been filed in district courts around the U.S. against United Airlines, American Airlines, British Airways, Air France-KLM, Lufthansa, and others for overcharging cargo fees.

    Various corporations have filed these lawsuits complaining that the airlines conspired to impose and raise fuel and security surcharges on cargo shipped to and from the U.S. since 2000. For over six years, these airlines have charged thousands of dollars in additional and increased shipping surcharges. It is alleged that the airlines created a global scheme to fix fuel and security surcharges and used the 9/11/01 terrorist attacks as an excuse for coordinating price increases.


  5. Hi Phil,

    The need for a new model depends upon recognizing the prevailing thoughts and actions that are disseminated throughout the world body.

    I suggested the comparison of the "Quantum Chlorophyll" and the question of the designer because such algorithm written will be influenced by that "prevailing hand of destiny?"

    Why I might suggest, that a scientist is a "mere foot soldier" while unbeknown to them, they are part and parcel of the future of an economic system. One that they are developing.

    Why would one say, that an economist of the likes who holds a position on the Federal reserve have detailed a prevailing destiny "by their thought process" will have an effect on countries and world communities, by their single decisions? Canada, by osmosis?

    You see, we are slowly identifying the culprit in a "thought process and action taken."

    Bernanke's Witness Protection Program By Mike Whitney

    That's right; $1 trillion for Bernanke's TALF and another trillion for Geithner's so called "Public-Private Partnership". That's $2 trillion down a derivatives sinkhole just to preserve the illusion that the banks are still solvent. Bernanke has decided to shrug off the advice of nearly every reputable economist in the country, most of whom are pushing for a government takeover of the failing banks (nationalization), just to toss his shifty banking buddies a lifeline. It doesn't seem to bother him that the public till has already been looted and that his action will leave the next generation of Americans bobbing in a pool of red ink.

    We are not in a state of equilibrium. More so, the recognition of "a position where injection of energy is needed and applied," that raises the bar on an standard that takes care of the "virus" in the process.

    The course is inevitable and our exchanges pointed this out very early, that people will be taken to assess their own positions as to whether to participate as a consumer, knowing their money is tight, and that further spending requires debt. That is the logic you can never escape, is that consumerism will dictate your survival, and does so in the economy.

    This is the reorientation that is needed, that one might look to let's say, "seed sales" and see an increase, while identifying the public consumerism as adjusting to the times.

    This fear that you thought I might be projecting, is about survival for the consumers and and the injustice of corporate greed is the cleaning the slate after each merger to loose sight of the monopolization that can go on and does.

    I still try to discourage people from using the model of the pyramid for such population allocations. "My model" is better and was intuitively gathered to implicated each person as to their own destiny is matter of choice in those same thought processes.


  6. Hi Plato,

    I see where all this is leading and that it comes down to the premise that those who really rule are those with money and they are then bent in maintaining their power by continuing the disparity between rich and poor. I would concede that some who have money think like this and yet I would also challenge the belief that they conspire among one another in unison in maintaining it or to exclude others from joining their ranks. There is better evidence most strive to take it away from one another even more so then excluding others.

    Without going around in circles with talking about what this or that thing that’s happened we should be wary of and serves as to justify suspicion, let’s turn to look at the world’stwo richest people, being Bill Gates and Warren Buffet. Now look as to what they are most ultimately concerned and have warned about . Also look at how Buffet lives day to day and look to how Gates has changed as to what’s important to him and tell me they are part of an evil conspiracy.

    The truth is what Buffet has long known and Gates now has realized more strongly recently is in the end they own actually nothing and the best they have achieved is becoming caretakers and now are striving to become better and more worthy ones. So if there be this all powerful thing we must fear, I’m convinced it can only be found first in each one of us and only with that realization of what unfortunately is common will we learn what actually forms to be a conspiracy. So for me it’s not the unity that exists that’s the problem yet rather the ones we choose to deny.



  7. Hi Phil,

    Where it's leading? No, you have me confused with anonymous.

    Phil:what then happens to the speculative aspect that provides motivation when there is no longer the element of risk or gamble that exists with uncertainty.

    It's the Debt Phil, not who the rich people are. You spoke about competitiveness as a expression in the dynamics of the economy, so I spoke to that, and it's ills.

    Phil:I guess I’m asking what’s the difference between the world that existed just over a year ago and the one we have now?

    There is an outcome "now" Phil from not recognizing what existed before.

    There is more to come. You've made a decision in mind before having all the information. Your very set in your ways. I referred you back to our first talks to show you that I had already this information in mind, to show you how quick I had come to recognize that consumers will be taking a stock of their own positions.

    Why should "a consumer" be burdened with more debt?

    Just wanted to put this here for consideration.

    More info to follow time permitting


  8. Phil,

    I never did let you know what else Pirsig did for me. :)

    Again I pointed out the pyramid "not in relation to anonymous's view" but my own, to let you know the difference between our point of views.

    Earth foursquare, and energy(triangle) are principled points of view about the psychological and gravity of thinking. Is to rise above, while retaining our roots in the earth, to the purity of intellectual thinking, but not alone without the emotive connection.


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  10. Hi Plato,

    Just so that you know I also recognize like you that as it stands many have bitten off more then they can chew. What the system of course has facilitated is they are able to even consider they could, not if they should. So it seems we agree on this, yet I understand this is as largely an individual responsibility and to recognize that this is also an aspect of liberty, one which our anonymous friend seems not to admit. All I’m warning about is to go to far the opposite way in reaction, from spending more then one should, to hoarding so that it has no use to oneself and can never be to others.

    As you said we must seek equilibrium, yet better still understand that as within nature the system unless considered in its entirety is never closed; and if even here I am lead to wonder as the universe appears to expand with as of yet no clear explanation. So its not the promise to pay that’s the problem, yet rather if one has the ability and intent to keep those promises, which in only being free can we ever be left to decide. So true liberty is not simply an act of will; yet more so its reasoned enactment. Some have called it to being in another’s image, others as truth in the recognition of beauty and still others realizing quality.



    Sorry about the eraser, yet you should know me by now:-)

  11. Hi Plato,

    I just thought I would leave with you here what it is I fear most as we endeavour to seek solution.